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	<title>Comments on: Intensification of Labour</title>
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		<title>By: N Pepperell</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Nate - yeah, I have the same reactions to the art:  cool, as long as I don&#039;t think too closely about the tacit politics :-)  I don&#039;t know much about Gellert - just the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Gellert&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia version&lt;/a&gt; :-)

The primitive accumulation section, as I read it, is the &quot;real&quot; history - the contingent, messy history - of the development of capitalism, and so it makes sense in many ways to put it first.  Marx thought, I guess, that this would be backward, since capitalism generates moments &lt;em&gt;internally&lt;/em&gt;, which then &quot;present themselves&quot; as remnants of earlier social forms - so he&#039;s got a whole metacritique happening of things that get taken to be &quot;past&quot;, but that are actually necessary moments of the contemporary reproduction of capital.  He starts from that illusory history, showing how it&#039;s generated in the present - and I think he doesn&#039;t believe he can discuss what he thinks the &quot;real&quot; history is, until after he&#039;s done that.  (Of course, I think there&#039;s an element to Marx&#039;s presentational style that is sort of what you might expect if a committee sat down, wanting to know how best to confuse the readers of a work...  I love the correspondence with Engels, where Engels is pointing to the &lt;em&gt;Science of Logic&lt;/em&gt; as an example for Marx of a clearer form of written presentation.  You know you&#039;re in trouble with your writing style when...  ;-P)

But yeah, I was idly thinking I might like to collect some images like this, to toss into the thesis periodically.  :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nate &#8211; yeah, I have the same reactions to the art:  cool, as long as I don&#8217;t think too closely about the tacit politics <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I don&#8217;t know much about Gellert &#8211; just the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Gellert" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia version</a> <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The primitive accumulation section, as I read it, is the &#8220;real&#8221; history &#8211; the contingent, messy history &#8211; of the development of capitalism, and so it makes sense in many ways to put it first.  Marx thought, I guess, that this would be backward, since capitalism generates moments <em>internally</em>, which then &#8220;present themselves&#8221; as remnants of earlier social forms &#8211; so he&#8217;s got a whole metacritique happening of things that get taken to be &#8220;past&#8221;, but that are actually necessary moments of the contemporary reproduction of capital.  He starts from that illusory history, showing how it&#8217;s generated in the present &#8211; and I think he doesn&#8217;t believe he can discuss what he thinks the &#8220;real&#8221; history is, until after he&#8217;s done that.  (Of course, I think there&#8217;s an element to Marx&#8217;s presentational style that is sort of what you might expect if a committee sat down, wanting to know how best to confuse the readers of a work&#8230;  I love the correspondence with Engels, where Engels is pointing to the <em>Science of Logic</em> as an example for Marx of a clearer form of written presentation.  You know you&#8217;re in trouble with your writing style when&#8230;  ;-P)</p>
<p>But yeah, I was idly thinking I might like to collect some images like this, to toss into the thesis periodically.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://roughtheory.org/2008/01/13/intensification-of-labour/#comment-1521</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey again, sorry to double post, I just noticed that Gellert starts with primitive accumulation then goes back to the beginning. That&#039;s how I like to read Capital too. Neat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey again, sorry to double post, I just noticed that Gellert starts with primitive accumulation then goes back to the beginning. That&#8217;s how I like to read Capital too. Neat.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://roughtheory.org/2008/01/13/intensification-of-labour/#comment-1520</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey thanks for that, I got that book out of the library by accident (stumbled across while looking for something else on Capital), but I didn&#039;t know it was online. I forget what the artist&#039;s story is, do you recall? The imagery makes me think of the marxist politics I dislike (though I&#039;ve come around and decided I like the aesthetic sense of those marxists).
take care,
Nate]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey thanks for that, I got that book out of the library by accident (stumbled across while looking for something else on Capital), but I didn&#8217;t know it was online. I forget what the artist&#8217;s story is, do you recall? The imagery makes me think of the marxist politics I dislike (though I&#8217;ve come around and decided I like the aesthetic sense of those marxists).<br />
take care,<br />
Nate</p>
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